Dispel Magic, Greater - Revision history

Rhifox at 20:54, 16 January 2021

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	According to the eminent Valefort, CL 29 is not immune to Greater Dispel Magic, as the code sees a 40 v 40 check as a failure. So, be forewarned!		According to the eminent Valefort, CL 29 is not immune to Greater Dispel Magic, as the code sees a 40 v 40 check as a failure. So, be forewarned!

	~~<nowiki>~~// Actual dispel roll for this effect		// Actual dispel roll for this effect
	iRoll = d20() + nCasterlevel;		iRoll = d20() + nCasterlevel;
	iDC = 11 + iEffectCasterLevel;		iDC = 11 + iEffectCasterLevel;
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	{		{
	DispelSpellFromTarget(oTarget, iSpellId, nId, oCaster);		DispelSpellFromTarget(oTarget, iSpellId, nId, oCaster);
	}~~</nowiki>~~		}

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	*[[Dispel magic]]		*[[Dispel magic]]

Rhifox at 20:53, 16 January 2021

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	According to the eminent Valefort, CL 29 is not immune to Greater Dispel Magic, as the code sees a 40 v 40 check as a failure. So, be forewarned!		According to the eminent Valefort, CL 29 is not immune to Greater Dispel Magic, as the code sees a 40 v 40 check as a failure. So, be forewarned!

	// Actual dispel roll for this effect		<nowiki>// Actual dispel roll for this effect
	iRoll = d20() + nCasterlevel;		iRoll = d20() + nCasterlevel;
	iDC = 11 + iEffectCasterLevel;		iDC = 11 + iEffectCasterLevel;
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	{		{
	DispelSpellFromTarget(oTarget, iSpellId, nId, oCaster);		DispelSpellFromTarget(oTarget, iSpellId, nId, oCaster);
	}		}</nowiki>

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	*[[Dispel magic]]		*[[Dispel magic]]

Rhifox at 20:52, 16 January 2021

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	'''Dispel Magic, greater''' attempts to strip all the magical effects on the target. If used on an area then it attempts to remove the most powerful spell of each creature. The dispel check is 1[[d20]] + 1 per caster level (to a maximum of +20) versus 11 + spell effect's caster level.		'''Dispel Magic, greater''' attempts to strip all the magical effects on the target. If used on an area then it attempts to remove the most powerful spell of each creature. The dispel check is 1[[d20]] + 1 per caster level (to a maximum of +20) versus 11 + spell effect's caster level.

			== Notes ==
	According to the eminent Valefort, CL 29 is not immune to Greater Dispel Magic, as the code sees a 40 v 40 check as a failure. So, be forewarned!		According to the eminent Valefort, CL 29 is not immune to Greater Dispel Magic, as the code sees a 40 v 40 check as a failure. So, be forewarned!

			// Actual dispel roll for this effect
			iRoll = d20() + nCasterlevel;
			iDC = 11 + iEffectCasterLevel;

			// The effect is dispelled
			if(iRoll >= iDC)
			{
			DispelSpellFromTarget(oTarget, iSpellId, nId, oCaster);
			}

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	*[[Dispel magic]]		*[[Dispel magic]]

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Description

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	== Description ==		== Description ==
	'''Dispel Magic, greater''' attempts to strip all the magical effects on the target. If used on an area then it attempts to remove the most powerful spell of each creature. The dispel check is 1[[d20]] + 1 per caster level (to a maximum of +20) versus 11 + spell effect's caster level.		'''Dispel Magic, greater''' attempts to strip all the magical effects on the target. If used on an area then it attempts to remove the most powerful spell of each creature. The dispel check is 1[[d20]] + 1 per caster level (to a maximum of +20) versus 11 + spell effect's caster level.

			According to the eminent Valefort, CL 29 is not immune to Greater Dispel Magic, as the code sees a 40 v 40 check as a failure. So, be forewarned!

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	*[[Dispel magic]]		*[[Dispel magic]]

Valleriani at 11:39, 3 September 2017

2017-09-03T11:39:58Z

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	{{spell		{{spell
	\|icon=Is dispelmagicgreat.~~jpg~~		\|icon=Is dispelmagicgreat.png
	\|image=		\|image=
	\|level_bard=5		\|level_bard=5
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	== Description ==		== Description ==
	'''Dispel Magic, greater''' attempts to strip all the magical effects on the target. If used on an area then it attempts to remove the most powerful spell of each creature. The dispel check is 1[[d20]] + 1 per caster level (to a maximum of +15) versus 11 + spell effect's caster level.		'''Dispel Magic, greater''' attempts to strip all the magical effects on the target. If used on an area then it attempts to remove the most powerful spell of each creature. The dispel check is 1[[d20]] + 1 per caster level (to a maximum of +20) versus 11 + spell effect's caster level.

	~~== Known Bugs ==~~

	~~The DC of dispel checks in NWN2 are actually based on character level not caster level. This means that at character level 30 the DC is always 41 no matter what other factors are involved~~.

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	*[[Dispel magic]]		*[[Dispel magic]]

	~~== Pen and Paper Comparison ==~~
	Greater Dispelling has always had a cap of +20 in both 3.0 and 3.5 edition, not +15. Likely this was a minor oversight which survived from Neverwinter Nights 1. This can be significant at higher level play, however, as the gap between caster level and dispel checks grows rapidly. Only Wizards and Sorcerers possess a spell (Mordenkainen's Disjunction) which even has a chance of dispelling spells cast by a caster of level 25 or higher, while dispelling the effects of even a level 20 caster is very difficult with this spell.

	Note that since dispel check DCs are based on character level, it wouldn't matter if the spell were corrected to match PnP sources. It could never dispel any level 30 character. It would be more useful pre-epic and have a small chance at success until level 29 at least.

	~~== External resources ==~~
	*[[NWNWiki:Greater Dispelling]]
	*[http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagicGreater.htm d20 SRD Dispel Magic, Greater]

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104.33.186.47 at 07:16, 25 August 2015

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|icon=Is dispelmagicgreat.jpg
|image=
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|level_druid=6
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|level_ranger=
|level_sorwiz=6
|level_warlock=
|level_additional=[[Magic (domain)|Magic]] domain 5
|level_innate=6
|school=Abjuration
|descriptor=
|components=VS
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== Description ==
'''Dispel Magic, greater''' attempts to strip all the magical effects on the target. If used on an area then it attempts to remove the most powerful spell of each creature. The dispel check is 1[[d20]] + 1 per caster level (to a maximum of +15) versus 11 + spell effect's caster level.

== Known Bugs ==

The DC of dispel checks in NWN2 are actually based on character level not caster level. This means that at character level 30 the DC is always 41 no matter what other factors are involved.

== See Also ==
*[[Dispel magic]]

== Pen and Paper Comparison ==
Greater Dispelling has always had a cap of +20 in both 3.0 and 3.5 edition, not +15. Likely this was a minor oversight which survived from Neverwinter Nights 1. This can be significant at higher level play, however, as the gap between caster level and dispel checks grows rapidly. Only Wizards and Sorcerers possess a spell (Mordenkainen's Disjunction) which even has a chance of dispelling spells cast by a caster of level 25 or higher, while dispelling the effects of even a level 20 caster is very difficult with this spell.

Note that since dispel check DCs are based on character level, it wouldn't matter if the spell were corrected to match PnP sources. It could never dispel any level 30 character. It would be more useful pre-epic and have a small chance at success until level 29 at least.

== External resources ==
*[[NWNWiki:Greater Dispelling]]
*[http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagicGreater.htm d20 SRD Dispel Magic, Greater]